Koran 16:85-88

16:85 And when those who wronged see the punishment, it will not be lightened for them, nor will they be reprieved.

86 And when those who associated others with Allah see their “partners,” they will say, “Our Lord, these are our partners [to You] whom we used to invoke besides You.”

But they will throw at them the statement, “Indeed, you are liars.”

87 And they will impart to Allah that Day [their] submission, and lost from them is what they used to invent.

88 Those who disbelieved and averted [others] from the way of Allah – We will increase them in punishment over [their] punishment for what corruption they were causing.

Koran 16:85-88

In the Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 16:84, there’s no commentary from the scholars. Commentary resumes at Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 16:89. Three years later, the commentary is published. Criticism does work.

Muhammad spoke about Allah in the third person. This means this passage is not the perfect words of the perfect Qur’an from perfect Allah. Thus, Allah is false, imaginary, and fictional, which means Islamic doctrine and Islam are nonsensical and false.

Muhammad includes the imperfect words of imperfect others, an interlocutor who is only in Muhammad’s mind, instead of the perfect words of the perfect Qur’an from perfect Allah. This means that Muhammad’s recitation, Muhammad’s Koran, is not from Allah, which means Allah, Muhammad, Islamic doctrine, Islam, and Koran are incoherent and false.

Muhammad commits shirk with: “We”, “Us” or “Our”, placing Allah as a companion to himself, showing that Allah is incoherent, imaginary, and fictional, and so Islam is incoherent with monotheism, thus Islam is contradictory and false.

This passage continues Muhammad’s “future” diatribe against the Quraysh from Koran 16:84, whom Muhammad accuses of deliberately associating others with Allah when this was their tradition since before the time of Abraham. Abraham left the worship of idols behind him. Muhammad continues the worship of idols from Ur, the cattle god Sin, the storm, thunder and lightning god Baal and Lah, the Moon god, all together in Al Lah, the father god, in the Quraysh pantheon, with three daughters, Al Lah, Al Uzza and Manat, and their mother, Ackbar, the Sun goddess. Muhammad himself in his Koran to the Quraysh tells us the names of these important daughters and goddesses just before the Satanic Verses:

53:19 So have you considered al-Lat and al-‘Uzza? 20 And Manat, the third – the other one?

Satan tempted Muhammad to utter the following line:

These are the exalted gharāniq, whose intercession is hoped for.

Koran 53:19-20
Al Lat, Al Uzza, Lion, Allah (Al Lah, Hubaal, Baal and Sin) and Manat, with Ackbar, the Sun goddess in the background arch
Allah, the dead, broken, stone idol, in Mecca, Petra, Jordan.

Allah is the rain god of the Quraysh and was invoked for rain and for victory in battle, as :

Before the idolators left Makkah for Badr, they clung to the curtains covering the Ka`bah and supplicated to Allah for victory, “O Allah! Give victory to the exalted among the two armies, the most honored among the two groups, and the most righteous among the two tribes.”

Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 8:19

Muhammad shows the Quraysh as looking at their “partners” with: “And when those who associated others with Allah see their “partners,””, in other words, actually seeing the goddesses they worshipped:

Al Uzza, Al Lat, Manat and Lion, their defender

Their goddesses: Al Uzza, Al Lat, Manat and god Lion, let’s be clear, are clearly visible and animated and who will say, according to Muhammad here: “But they will throw at them the statement, “Indeed, you are liars.””. And then these goddesses and Lion will “And they will impart to Allah that Day [their] submission”. As you can see, Muhammad is continuing on from the Satanic verses here.

53:19 So have you considered al-Lat and al-‘Uzza? 20 And Manat, the third – the other one?

16:86 [On the last day] But they will throw at them the statement, “Indeed, you are liars.”

87 And they will impart to Allah that Day [their] submission,…

Koran 53:19-20 followed by Koran 16:86-87

Muhammad shows he knows that Allah is the chief god and that his daughter gods are submissive to Allah, as the Quraysh already knew. Thus Islam is not monotheist, but polytheist, with subordinate goddesses and a lion pet.

And guess what? Even the scholars of Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 16:84 acknowledge there are other gods in Islam:

Then Allah tells us that their gods will disown them when they need them most.

…those gods will say to them, `you are lying. We never commanded you to worship us.’

…they (false deities) will become their enemies and will deny their worship,

Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 16:84
The thunder is the words, the thoughts are the lightning.

88 Those who disbelieved and averted [others] from the way of Allah – We will increase them in punishment over [their] punishment for what corruption they were causing.

Koran 16:88

Never listen to a demon. After all, Allah is one idol, right?

Allah bows to Muhammad, “We”

But worse is this, the Quraysh were forced to convert to Islam long ago, they are/were Muslim and, according to Muhammad, they will go to Islamic Paradise instead. Thus this will never happen. Muhammad was a false prophet, for a false god, Allah, for a false religion, Islam, with not even a false book, his Koran was assembled after his death in the wrong order. Muhammad’s religion, Islam, is incoherent and nonsensical, he modified a polytheism to a monotheism and then on at least two occasions, allowed the original gods back into the “monotheism” of Islam, making Islam a polytheism.

But, Infidel, the ancestors of the Quraysh will suffer this grave fate! How so? They never received a messenger to tell them about Islam. Thus it’s an act of injustice by Allah to sentence them to Fire when they didn’t know any better, particularly when they already worshipped Allah, and obeyed the nominal father of Muhammad, their priest of Allah. Recall:

Before the idolators left Makkah for Badr, they clung to the curtains covering the Ka`bah and supplicated to Allah for victory, “O Allah! Give victory to the exalted among the two armies, the most honored among the two groups, and the most righteous among the two tribes.”

Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 8:19

The Quraysh ancestors already worshipped Allah. Thus we know that Islam is false, being based on polytheism, the worship of idols, Allah being the chief god with three daughter goddesses.

Allah (Al Lah, Baal, Sin), Al Lat, Al Uzza and Manat

The best replacement for this passage is: “”, the empty sentence.

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