Koran 6:80-83

6:80 And his people argued with him.

He said, “Do you argue with me concerning Allah while He has guided me? And I fear not what you associate with Him [and will not be harmed] unless my Lord should will something. My Lord encompasses all things in knowledge; then will you not remember? 81 And how should I fear what you associate while you do not fear that you have associated with Allah that for which He has not sent down to you any authority? So which of the two parties has more right to security, if you should know?”

82 They who believe and do not mix their belief with injustice – those will have security, and they are [rightly] guided.

83 And that was Our [conclusive] argument which We gave Abraham against his people.

We raise by degrees whom We will.

Indeed, your Lord is Wise and Knowing.

Koran 6:80-83

This passage is Muhammad continuing talking about Abraham, from the previous passage in Muhammad’s recitation, Muhammad’s Koran, Koran 6:74-79. This is part of the many stories about Abraham. This passage is intended to warn against associating others with Allah, which Abraham and his people never did, yet, in this very passage:

Muhammad commits shirk with: “We”, “Us” or “Our”, placing Allah as a companion to himself, showing that Allah is incoherent, imaginary, and fictional, and so Islam is incoherent with monotheism, thus Islam is contradictory and false.

Note the repeated instances of Muhammad committing shirk: “Our” and several “We”. Obvious these repeated examples of Muhammad committing shirk show that Allah is Muhammad’s puppet, an idol, a false god.

Abraham’s Argument

I’ll show that this isn’t Abraham arguing, but it’s Muhammad arguing badly while pretending to be Abraham. Here’s the original argument:

6:80 And his people argued with him.

He {Muhammad, pretending to be Abraham} said, “Do you argue with me concerning Allah while He has guided me? And I fear not what you associate with Him [and will not be harmed] unless my Lord should will something. My Lord encompasses all things in knowledge; then will you not remember? 81 And how should I fear what you associate while you do not fear that you have associated with Allah that for which He has not sent down to you any authority? So which of the two parties has more right to security, if you should know?”

82 They who believe and do not mix their belief with injustice – those will have security, and they are [rightly] guided.

83 And that was Our [conclusive] argument which We gave Abraham against his people.

We raise by degrees whom We will.

Indeed, your Lord is Wise and Knowing.

Koran 6:80-83

Here are the “arguments” that Muhammad, pretending to be Abraham, makes:

  1. Do you argue with me concerning Allah while He has guided me?
  2. And I fear not what you associate with Him [and will not be harmed] unless my Lord should will something.
  3. My Lord encompasses all things in knowledge; then will you not remember?
  4. And how should I fear what you associate while you do not fear that you have associated with Allah that for which He has not sent down to you any authority?
  5. So which of the two parties has more right to security, if you should know?

And here are the refutations for each of the arguments above:

  1. Point 1 is a rhetorical question showing the arrogance of Muhammad, that his people dare question him. Allah didn’t guide Muhammad, ever. Abraham abandoned the worship of the idols of his father, Terah, entirely, mocking them. So obviously this can’t be Abraham.
  2. Point 2 – Allah doesn’t will, he’s imaginary, a fictional stone idol, who only acts from inside Muhammad.
  3. Point 3 – Idle boast without proof and is proven false by Muhammad responding after the fact. No one can remember what Allah does as Allah does nothing.
  4. Point 4 – Muhammad as well as his tribe inherited their idol worship from their ancestors, going back to Abraham’s father, Terah, in Ur. From the hadith, it seems the Quraysh loved their female idols, just like Muhammad and his wife did and didn’t fear them. The Quraysh and Muhammad feared Allah. Abraham didn’t fear Allah, he simply rejected the idols, including Allah.
  5. Point 5 – Neither party, Muhammad or the Quraysh, had security or rights to it. Allah did nothing and only consumed the resources of Muhammad, his wife and the Quraysh, showing that idols are worthless nonsense and a waste of resources.

So from the above, we know the following verse is a lie by “We”, Muhammad, Jibril, Allah:

83 And that was Our [conclusive] argument which We gave Abraham against his people.

Excerpt, Koran 6:83

Muhammad made a mistake: “Indeed, your Lord is Wise and Knowing.” This should be “our” not “your”. What this passage shows, is that the god of Abraham differs from Allah, the servant of Muhammad, the god Sin, the cult of cow and bull worship.

Also notice the interesting distinctions between: “my Lord”, “Allah” and “your Lord”. These should be “our Lord” or “our Allah”. After all, isn’t Allah supposedly one, and not two, “my lord” and “your lord”?

Muhammad or “We” lies: “We raise by degrees whom We will.” Allah, Muhammad or We doesn’t raise people by “degrees”. Consider, if Allah elevated people, then Allah could elevate Muhammad to ruler over the Quraysh. But nothing happened. Instead, there was someone else who was elevated to ruler over the Quraysh, one of Muhammad’s many enemies. So did Allah raise that person to be Muhammad’s enemy and so act against his own prophet? Obviously not, as that’s stupid, the opposite of wise and omniscient. It’s humans that elevate or give power to people, by various means, which Muhammad failed at with the Quraysh. Most likely it was because Muhammad was constantly annoying them, boasting to them, stealing from them, lying to them and abusing them, which is a good way to lower yourself by many degrees without the help of Allah.

In the picture at the top, Abraham entertains the three angels AKA God/Trinity. Obviously, Muhammad missed this interesting story. Perhaps it was because Muhammad was unable to get visible angels to visit him in front of other people, because Allah is imaginary, as he is, being a broken stone idol. As such the best replacement for this passage is: “”, the empty sentence.

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