Royal “We”

Infidel, the “We” in Allah’s Koran is Allah using the Royal “We” – how dare you pretend Allah is multiple! This is the common excuse from Muslims, Muslim apologists and Muslim scholars, for example, this list of the first three available pages on Royal “We”:

When I see “We”, “Us” or “Our” in a Koran verse or passage, I flag this as:

Muhammad commits shirk with: “We”, “Us” or “Our”, placing Allah as a companion to himself, showing that Allah is incoherent, imaginary, and fictional, and so Islam is incoherent with monotheism, thus Islam is contradictory and false.

So why do I do this, if the Muslims, Muslim apologists and Muslim scholars are right about Royal “We”? Because I agree with them. Muhammad is using the Royal “We”, along with “Us” and “Our”, to produce the impression of grandeur and royalty appropriate for royalty. Unfortunately, a real god has no need of this, thus showing that Royal “We” along with “Us” and “Our”, shows that Allah is a group with Muhammad, Allah is Muhammad and Muhammad is Allah.

This Koran verse uses the Royal “We”, followed by “Our Servant” – referring to Muhammad.

And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a Surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful.

Koran 2:23

It’s obvious that it’s Muhammad boasting here, not Allah, as this is a meta-reference about imaginary Allah’s imaginary Qur’an which is in Muhammad’s Koran, written by mere humans. A real god has no need for this verse at all because a real god needs to communicate with ALL humans, easily and simply, not boast about his work, or the work of Muhammad in his recitation.

And if it’s not Muhammad boasting, then obviously “We” is Jibril.

This is another example, of “We” and “Our”, in one of Muhammad’s stories about Adam:

2:38 We said, “Go down from it, all of you. And when guidance comes to you from Me, whoever follows My guidance – there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve. 39 And those who disbelieve and deny Our signs – those will be companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally.”

Koran 2:38-39

Notice that Muhammad starts with the royal “We’, then in his speech, uses “Me” and “My”, then switches to “Our” for “Our signs”. Muhammad’s speech is to Adam (and Eve), then to the listener (now reader). Clearly, the “Our signs”, referring to the verses spoken by Muhammad (signs to the listener), refer to Muhammad and imaginary Allah and are meant to frighten the listener (and reader) into submission.

Three Heads of Muhammad, Moon (Allah), Child, Demon

Here’s another example with “We” and “Us”:

75:16 Move not your tongue with it, [O Muhammad], to hasten with recitation of the Qur’an.

17 Indeed, upon Us is its collection [in your heart] and [to make possible] its recitation.

18 So when We have recited it [through Gabriel], then follow its recitation.

19 Then upon Us is its clarification [to you].

20 No! But you love the immediate 21 And leave the Hereafter.

Koran 75:16-21

Obviously, as shown by “[O Muhammad]” this is a message to Muhammad, which is completely inappropriate in a book supposedly written for all people, in all places and at all times, for all languages. Now, who is “Us”? Obviously not Muhammad or Allah, is it? After all, Allah supposedly has written his Qur’an long before creation. It’s Jibril who supposedly communicates with Muhammad, right? What this shows is that Jibril speaks of himself in the plural as “Us” and “We”, using the Royal “We” (and “Us”) to make himself seem grand and royal, which is entirely appropriate for a demon (or neglected alternate personality) to use.

And of course, by speaking “We”, the Royal “We”, Muhammad should only be using this when speaking the Koran, and not in any other situation, like being ill with fever:

Abu Sa’id exclaimed, “How hot your fever is, Messenger of Allah!”

He said, “We are like that. The affliction is hard on us, but the reward is doubled for us.”

Excerpt, Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 510

Notice that Muhammad uses “We” and “Us” to refer to himself outside of the context of creating and reciting Koran verses for his scribe to write down. Obviously, this is inappropriate. And no, this doesn’t refer to other prophets of Allah, as there are none, despite Muhammad’s lies. Obviously, this passage is not in Muhammad’s Koran. So is the Koran corrupted? Or is there something else going on, inside Muhammad?

For more about this, see Jibril ≠ Gabriel.

But Infidel, Allah and Jibril are real and separate from Muhammad! They’re obviously not, as they’re both informed by Muhammad’s knowledge base, not by divine knowledge and certainly not divine omniscience. Thus Allah is Muhammad, Muhammad is Allah, and there’s Jibril in there too. This is also confirmed by the many messages from Allah and Jibril to Muhammad, comforting him, giving him bad advice, and so on.

But, Infidel, you just mentioned that Allah had messages to Muhammad?! That’s right. In Muhammad’s growing madness or being home to demons, Muhammad also had Allah possess him as well as Jibril.