Our Fathers

There’s an important objection that the Quraysh have in Muhammad’s Koran, about “our fathers”, the fathers of Muhammad and the ruler of Muhammad’s tribe, variously “Eminent” and “Pharaoh“. It’s the struggle between the tradition of Muhammad’s tribe, their leader and Muhammad’s nominal father with Muhammad’s innovation, worshipping only Allah the idol instead of Allah and the rest of the idols.

And when it is said to them, “Follow what Allāh has revealed,” they say, “Rather, we will follow that which we found our fathers doing.”

Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?

Koran 2:170

Notice that Muhammad refers to “their fathers”, not to “our fathers”, showing his father is not part of “our fathers”.

And when it is said to them, “Come to what Allāh has revealed and to the Messenger,” they say, “Sufficient for us is that upon which we found our fathers.”

Even though their fathers knew nothing, nor were they guided?

Koran 5:104

Notice Muhammad’s repetition of his rhetorical question, clearly showing he’s not guided by Allah or any real god.

Those who associated [others] with Allāh will say, “If Allāh had willed, we would not have associated [anything] and neither would our fathers, nor would we have prohibited anything.”

Likewise did those before deny until they tasted Our punishment.

Say, “Do you have any knowledge that you can produce for us? You follow not except assumption, and you are not but misjudging.”

Koran 6:148

And when they commit an immorality, they say, “We found our fathers doing it, and Allāh has ordered us to do it.”

Say, “Indeed, Allāh does not order immorality. Do you say about Allāh that which you do not know?”

Koran 7:28

Allah, of course, orders nothing. Muhammad is unable to define what this “immorality” is and why it’s so oddly specific to himself and his tribe.

But, Infidel, Muhammad didn’t do “immorality”! But, obviously, he did it while worshipping Allah and the rest of the idols and the “immorality” was considered normal by Muhammad.

They said, “Have you come to us that we should worship Allāh alone and leave what our fathers have worshipped? Then bring us what you promise us, if you should be of the truthful.”

Koran 7:70

Muhammad was unable to bring them the disaster that he promised. Instead, he and his Muslims invaded and forcibly converted everyone to Islam after murdering those who opposed him.

Saudi Arabia’s flag shows the real power of Islam, the Muslim sword.

Then We exchanged in place of the bad [condition], good, until they increased [and prospered] and said, “Our fathers [also] were touched with hardship and ease.”

So We seized them suddenly while they did not perceive.

Koran 7:95

Nothing happened except the normal problems of a small village outgrowing its food supply and wasting its resources on sacrifices to idols.

BBQing meat, then throwing it away.

Or [lest] you say, “It was only that our fathers associated [others in worship] with Allāh before, and we were but descendants after them. Then would You destroy us for what the falsifiers have done?”

Koran 7:173

Muhammad’s thought experiment shows he can’t think deeply.

They said, “Have you come to us to turn us away from that upon which we found our fathers and so that you two may have grandeur in the land? And we are not believers in you.”

Koran 10:78

Muhammad’s real goal was power – to be a tyrant.

They said, “O Ṣāliḥ, you were among us a man of promise before this. Do you forbid us to worship what our fathers worshipped? And indeed we are, about that to which you invite us, in disquieting doubt.”

Koran 11:62

Muhammad pretends to be “Saleh“.

They said, “O Shuʿayb, does your prayer [i.e., religion] command you that we should leave what our fathers worship or not do with our wealth what we please? Indeed, you are the forbearing, the discerning!”

Koran 11:87

Muhammad pretends to be “Shuaib“.

109 So do not be in doubt, [O Muhammad], as to what these [polytheists] are worshipping.

They worship not except as their fathers worshipped before.

And indeed, We will give them their share undiminished.

Koran 11:109

Notice that Muhammad refers to “their fathers”, not to “our fathers”, showing his father is not part of “our fathers”.

Gardens of perpetual residence; they will enter them with whoever were righteous among their fathers, their spouses and their descendants. And the angels will enter upon them from every gate, [saying],

Koran 13:23

Notice the extension from the Muslim men to their fathers – their fathers are still part of the tribe.

Their messengers said, “Can there be doubt about Allāh, Creator of the heavens and earth? He invites you that He may forgive you of your sins, and He delays you [i.e., your death] for a specified term.”

They said, “You are not but men like us who wish to avert us from what our fathers were worshipping. So bring us a clear authority [i.e., evidence].”

Koran 14:10

Muhammad was unable to bring “clear authority” – the idol of Allah says nothing. It’s a dumb idol after all:

Allah, the dead, broken, stone idol, in Mecca, Petra, Jordan.

And those who associate others with Allāh say, “If Allāh had willed, we would not have worshipped anything other than Him, neither we nor our fathers, nor would we have forbidden anything through other than Him.”

Thus did those do before them.

So is there upon the messengers except [the duty of] clear notification?

Koran 16:35

Muhammad contradicts Islamic Fate, showing it’s incoherent and false.

They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers.

Grave is the word that comes out of their mouths; they speak not except a lie.

Koran 18:5

Muhammad again shows he’s not part of the tribe with “their fathers”.

But, [on the contrary], We have provided good things for these [disbelievers] and their fathers until life was prolonged for them.

Then do they not see that We set upon the land, reducing it from its borders?

So it is they who will overcome?

Koran 21:44

Muhammad again shows he’s not part of the tribe with “their fathers”.

They said, “We found our fathers worshippers of them.”

Koran 21:53

For more, read Koran 21:51-71.

The “them” refers to the idols of the Quraysh, including the idol of Allah in the Kaaba.

Al Lat, Al Uzza, Lion, Allah (Al Lah, Hubaal, Baal and Sin) and Manat, with the Sun goddess in the background arch.

Muhammad pretends to be the all the daughters of Allah, speaking to Allah:

They will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for us to take besides You any allies. But You provided comforts for them and their fathers until they forgot the message and became a people ruined.”

Koran 25:18

They said, “But we found our fathers doing thus.”

Koran 26:74

Muhammad repeatedly copies the objections of the Quraysh and is unable to answer them.

And when it is said to them, “Follow what Allāh has revealed,” they say, “Rather, we will follow that upon which we found our fathers.”

Even if Satan was inviting them to the punishment of the Blaze?

Koran 31:21

For more, read Koran 26:10-68.

Indeed they found their fathers astray.

Koran 37:69

Our Lord, and admit them to gardens of perpetual residence which You have promised them and whoever was righteous among their fathers, their spouses and their offspring.

Indeed, it is You who is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

Koran 40:8

43:20 And they said, “If the Most Merciful had willed, we would not have worshipped them.”

They have of that no knowledge.

They are not but misjudging.

21 Or have We given them a book before it [i.e., the Qur’ān] to which they are adhering?

22 Rather, they say, “Indeed, we found our fathers upon a religion, and we are in their footsteps [rightly] guided.”

23 And similarly, We did not send before you any warner into a city except that its affluent said, “Indeed, we found our fathers upon a religion, and we are, in their footsteps, following.”

24 [Each warner] said, “Even if I brought you better guidance than that [religion] upon which you found your fathers?”

They said, “Indeed we, in that with which you were sent, are disbelievers.”

Koran 43:20-24

For more, read Koran 43:15-20 and Koran 43:21-25. Note how all the warners are illegitimate: “Even if I brought you better guidance than that [religion] upon which you found your fathers?” All the warners are Muhammad, pretending.

However, I gave enjoyment to these [people of Makkah] and their fathers until there came to them the truth and a clear Messenger.

Koran 43:29

You will not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day having affection for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even if they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred.

Excerpt, Koran 58:22

“I said: ‘O Messenger of Allah! Indeed the Quraish have sat and spoken between themselves about the best of them, and they made your likeness as that of a palm tree in a wasteland.’

Excerpt, Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3607

Muhammad repeatedly shows that he’s not the son of his nominal father, the Slave of Allah, who, while alive, promoted public polytheism. And, Muhammad knows he’s a bastard, illegitimate. He’s not the son of his nominal father. Who is Muhammad’s father? And more importantly, he’s not of his tribe, thus he’s not a prophet or messenger of his people, his tribe.

But, perhaps, you think I’m stretching too far, let’s look more closely at the objections from Muhammad’s tribe, without the additions by the translators:

“This is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it.”

“Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon.”

Quraysh, Koran 25:4-6

Who is “another people”? Who was a foreigner to Muhammad’s tribe? Not of his tribe, not of his people?

Waraqa, the “other people”, dictating to Muhammad, morning and afternoon, his scribe.

Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written [i.e., described] in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and prohibits them from what is wrong and makes lawful for them what is good and forbids them from what is evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him – it is those who will be the successful.

Koran 7:157

Who is “the light which was sent down with him”?

They want to extinguish the light of Allāh with their mouths, but Allāh refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.

Koran 9:32

They want to extinguish the light of Allāh with their mouths, but Allāh will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.

Koran 61:8

The same thing was mentioned in the hadeeth of Abu Umaamah that was reported by Ahmad, and Ibn Ishaq reported the same thing from Thawr ibn Yazeed, from Khaalid Ibn Ma’daan, from the Companions of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam (may Allaah exalt his mention) and she said, “Busra in the land of the Levant lit up for it (for his light).”

Light came out of Aaminah when she gave birth

In Al-Bidaayah wan-Nihaayah, Ibn Katheer, after mentioning some of these accounts, said, “These narrations necessitate that when she was pregnant with him, she had a dream that light came out of her that lit the palaces of the Levant, and when she gave birth to him, she saw with her own eyes the realization of this dream, just as she had seen it before that.”

Light came out of Aaminah when she gave birth

Where’s Busra? It’s Bosra now and previously:

A key Nabatean city, it became the prosperous provincial capital of the Roman province of Arabia Petraea following the dissolvement of the Nabatean kingdom.

With the advent of Christianity, Bostra flourished as a Metropolitan Archbishopric, under the jurisdiction of Eastern Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch and All the East. It also became a Latin Catholic titular see and the episcopal see of a Melkite Catholic Archeparchy.

Throughout its history under various Muslim rulers, the city maintained its strategic importance as Syria’s southern gateway. It attracted attention from Damascus’ rulers and was governed by various lords, serving as a hub for Islamic learning and endowments.

Wikipedia

Waraqa came from Bosra, and was of some importance, a prince, perhaps, but was exiled and lived in Mecca AKA Petra, and seduced Amina, who later gave birth to Muhammad. This is why the “light” – Waraqa was the “light” or Gnostic from Busra, the father of Muhammad, so making Muhammad illegitimate, and not of his people, the Quraysh tribe.

Waraqa the Gnostic, the Light from Busra, Syria, AKA Allah and his son, Muhammad, his lesser light.

Muhammad was a false prophet, for a false god, Allah, for a false religion, Islam, without even a false book, the Koran.