Koran 23:84-90

23:84 Say, [O Muhammad], “To whom belongs the earth and whoever is in it, if you should know?”

85 They will say, “To Allah.”

Say, “Then will you not remember?”

86 Say, “Who is Lord of the seven heavens and Lord of the Great Throne?”

87 They will say, “[They belong] to Allah .”

Say, “Then will you not fear Him?”

88 Say, “In whose hand is the realm of all things – and He protects while none can protect against Him – if you should know?”

89 They will say, “[All belongs] to Allah.”

Say, “Then how are you deluded?”

90 Rather, We have brought them the truth, and indeed they are liars.

Koran 23:84-90

Muhammad Allah commands Muhammad to: “Say” or “Recite”. This means that this passage is addressed to Muhammad, not to all people. Thus, this passage can’t be in the perfect words of the perfect Qur’an from perfect Allah. As it is addressed to Muhammad, in his time and place, his context, this also means that this passage is locked to Muhammad’s context and can’t be in the context-free, perfect Qur’an from perfect Allah with all its perfect words. Thus, this passage is part of Muhammad’s recitation, Muhammad’s Koran, which means Islamic doctrine and Islam are incoherent and false, meaning Allah is incoherent, imaginary, fictional, and false.

Muhammad, in his Koran, addresses a sentence, verse, or passage to “Anonymous They”, with “they”, “them”, “he”, “your”, “the people”, and so on, without naming them. For more, read Anonymous They.

Muhammad includes the imperfect words of imperfect others, an interlocutor who is only in Muhammad’s mind, instead of the perfect words of the perfect Qur’an from perfect Allah. This means that Muhammad’s recitation, Muhammad’s Koran, is not from Allah, which means Allah, Muhammad, Islamic doctrine, Islam, and Koran are incoherent and false.

Muhammad commits shirk with: “We”, “Us” or “Our”, placing Allah as a companion to himself, showing that Allah is incoherent, imaginary, and fictional, and so Islam is incoherent with monotheism, thus Islam is contradictory and false.

Note carefully, that this entire dialogue is a “prophecy” with Muhammad’s poor model of a Quraysh tribes-person in his head, as can be seen by the repeated use of: “They will say,…” in the text. Of course, it’s a false prophecy, but it does serve to know that Muhammad’s Islam and Quraysh polytheism were basically the same. Muhammad’s Islam merely eliminated Allah’s daughters from the Quraysh polytheism:

Al Lat, Al Uzza, Lion, Allah (Al Lah, Hubaal, Baal and Sin) and Manat, with the Sun goddess in the background arch
Allah, the dead, broken, stone idol, in Mecca, Petra, Jordan.

Now let’s go through Muhammad’s rhetoric and show it’s all false and nonsense, just like the Quraysh polytheism:

Koran 23:84

Muhammad: “To whom belongs the earth and whoever is in it, if you should know?”

Koran 23:84

We know this already. Each country’s land and coastal waters belong to the government of each country, in trust for the citizens of that country. Citizens and companies can own the surface of the land in their country for roughly 1 meter in depth. Some nations vary this to allow citizens to own land from the surface to the centre of the Earth. Also, you can own everything above your property too, but in practise it’s limited to around 300 meters vertically. Note that I’m not a lawyer and this is rough. For more, see: IF YOU OWN LAND, HOW FAR ABOVE AND BELOW DO YOU OWN? Also sometimes foreign citizens and companies can own land.

Worse for Allah, Muhammad and Jibril:

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

Article 17, UN Human Rights.

UN Human Rights contradict Allah’s ownership.

But, Infidel, that’s now, that people ignore Sharia, Islam, Muhammad and Allah! And in the past, everyone ignored Allah, Muhammad, Islam and Sharia on land ownership. And even today, Islamic countries IGNORE Muhammad on this issue. For example, I checked real estate property listings for MECCA and found that for SAR 5,500,000 I can buy 369 Square Meters in the Al Hindawiyyah, Mecca, Western Region. I won’t give a link because it will probably be sold to a speculator to build apartments for Hajj soon. How is it that I can buy this land if Allah owns it all? In short, Islamic countries implicitly know that Allah owns NOTHING and that Muslims buy and sell land without concern for Allah.

Koran 23:85

Muhammad: “Then will you not remember?”

Koran 23:85

This is Preformationism, a Greek idea, proven false, that was NEVER true.

Koran 23:86

Muhammad: “Who is Lord of the seven heavens and Lord of the Great Throne?”

Koran 23:86

There is no “seven heavens”. These are merely the orbits of the seven classical planets, which Muhammad calls the seven Earths.

Classical planets and their orbits

This is what our Solar System looks like, roughly:

Sun with the rocky planets Mercury, Venus, Earth with Moon and Mars; Asteroids and dwarf planet Ceres; gas giants Jupiter and Saturn; ice giants Neptune and Uranus; dwarf planets Pluto, Haumea, Makemake and Eris; comets Halley’s Comet.

A real god would know this and inform Muhammad to stop him from copying from the Greeks and other earlier cultures. As for “Lord of the Great Throne”, there’s no throne above or below Earth.

Earthrise
2010 Messenger view of Earth and Moon on the way to Mercury.

For more, see: Where are we?

Koran 23:87

Muhammad: “Then will you not fear Him?”

Koran 23:87

What’s there to fear when Allah is imaginary, a stone idol, an alternative personality of Muhammad, long dead with Muhammad?

Allah, the dead, broken, stone idol, in Mecca, Petra, Jordan.

Koran 23:88

Muhammad: “In whose hand is the realm of all things – and He protects while none can protect against Him – if you should know?”

Koran 23:88

Allah never protected Muhammad. Muhammad finally died of corrosive poisoning, in pain for over three years, dying the death of a false prophet as he said he would die.

Ask for Allah to protect you from an obvious danger, like falling off a cliff. As long as you don’t go near the cliff edge, you’re protected by Allah from falling?

Did Allah protect these people on the pedestrian crossing? Look at the cars, the truck and the bus held there by the power of Allah’s hand!

Drivers waiting politely for pedestrians to cross at the pedestrian crossing.

And none of them prayed for protection, did they?

Koran 23:89

Muhammad: “Then how are you deluded?”

Koran 23:89

Indeed, Muhammad, you are deluded.

The thunder is the words, the thoughts are the lightning.

Koran 23:90

[We speaks:] “Rather, We have brought them the truth, and indeed they are liars.”

Koran 23:90

Muhammad as “We” lies both times – he or We brought lies to the Quraysh, and the Quraysh told him their truth as best as they knew it.

The best replacement for this passage is: “”, the empty sentence.

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